Learning from Romans — Faith — Stylin' Granny Mama

It has taken us a long time to get through this one chapter of Romans, but I believe it has been worth it to take such amazing doctrine one bite at a time. God’s Word is truth and it is life transforming, so we do ourselves an injustice when we skim quickly through its unfathomable wisdom and insights. Today we are going to finished this chapter with the last three verses.

“37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us.
38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

— Romans 8:37-39 (NASB 1995)

We spent the last two years looking at Romans 8 and we have discovered amazing things. We learned that if we are in Christ Jesus we are not condemned. We also learned that the law is not able to accomplish what Christ accomplished by the shedding of His blood on the cross and His resurrection from the dead. In addition we learned our flesh is something that we will struggle with until it no longer binds us to this earth, but the good news is that even in our flesh we are loved and cherished by an amazing God who desires that we call Him Father. His Spirit prays for us at a gut wrenching level that we cannot understand.

Even still, we face obstacles as we walk this life. The enemy of mankind, Satan does everything he can to trip us up and to make us think that we are separated from our Creator. He regularly sabotages our efforts to abide, but the truth is he cannot separate us from God.

Let’s look at these last three verses phrase by phrase.

But in all these things - This grouping of five words is referring back to the list Paul gives us in verse 35: tribulation, distress, persecution, famine, nakedness, peril or sword. However, I would like to add that it can also be referring to what was previously said throughout the chapter which would include: condemnation, the flesh, suffering, corruption, and death. Indeed, in ALL these things…

We overwhelmingly conquer - We aren’t just scraping by, winning by the skin of our teeth, we are overwhelmingly conquering. If we look more closely at the word overwhelm we see that it includes the idea of overcoming, and engulfing.

I love this idea. We don’t just conquer sin and all the other things on the list, we do it by overcoming it and completely engulfing it. I had a flash back to the movie, The Blob, from 1958, where an alien entity crashes on earth and begins consuming everything in its path. Ha, ha. We crush and smother the opposition, that’s what it means for us to conquer in His name.

I know many of us don’t feel like we are conquering. I have days where I feel more like I am being consumed by that alien blob, than crushing the things that come against me. So how do we do it? Obviously, it isn’t something we do in our own strength. The next phrase gives us a clue…

Through Him who loved us - Just as Jesus said -

“4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me.”

— John 15:4 (NASB 1995)

It is time we own up to the fact that without Jesus we are lost, and I don’t just mean spiritually. We just can’t do the things that Jesus does. We aren’t immortal, yet, and as long as we are in this flesh we will struggle. This was part of the reason Jesus sent the Holy Spirit.

“5 “But now I am going to Him who sent Me; and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’
6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart.
7 But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
8 And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;
9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me;
11 and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.
12 “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
13 But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
15 All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.”

— John 16:5-15 (NASB 1995)

We are able to overwhelmingly conquer because we have the Holy Spirit. Through this third person of the Triune God we don’t just learn of His love, we know His love. Through this ethereal being we are given full knowledge of who God is and how He operates in our lives. True, there are still things we don’t and won’t know until we have transferred from this earthly world to the heavenly one, but with the Holy Spirit’s life in us we are overcome and engulfed in all that is holy, beautiful and right.

For I am convinced - the author of this epistle, the Apostle Paul, is confident in who Christ says that He is, and knows the transformative power of the Spirit in his own life. The Holy God did the work of convincing him, let Him do the work of convincing you.

“6 For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.”

— Philippians 1:6 (NASB 1995)

That neither death, nor life - I might be stating the obvious, but we often think death is the main thing that will, in the end, separate us from God’s love, but those of us who have put our faith in Christ know this will not be the case. Death will be the thing that takes us out of this world and opens the door to our heavenly home.

It is more likely the case that we allow life to separate us from God’s love, and this is where we need to be aware and keep an eye on our walk with Him. In reality, there is nothing that can keep us from God’s love, but we can certainly do things that make us feel as though He is far away.

You regularly hear me talking about the idea of abiding in Christ. That is because it is so very important to stick close to Him. Life is hard, and our enemy is relentless. He will use any chance he can to turn our eyes away from our Savior to the crashing waves around us.

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Nor angels, nor principalities - We might wonder why Paul included this in the list, but it is understood that not all created beings remained true to God. Satan was an angel and so were the demons that followed him in his attempt to usurp the throne of the King of Glory. None of these can keep us from the love of God. Let’s not forget, His seal is on us, and nothing comes into our lives that hasn’t first passed through the Father’s hands. We see this in the book of Job.

Nor things present, nor things to come - We know time is relentless and we cannot get away from it’s passing. In fact, its passage has a profound affect on our lives in that it makes us age, and there is nothing we can change about this fact. However, no matter what we are going through right now, or what we will face in the future, we go through it wrapped in the loving arms of Jesus.

Nor powers - We are living in uncertain times and it is pretty clear people are concerned about the powers that be, not only in our own country, but in other countries around the world. I am so thankful that God holds me and the world I live in, in His hands. Only He can and will bring about the new heavens and the new earth. No matter who is in charge, they only hold the power that God’s allows them to have.

Nor height, nor depth - It does not matter the heights we achieve in this life; not the riches, the glory, or the fame. It also doesn’t matter the depths we have fallen to; the darkest cave, the deepest ocean, none of these can separate us from the love of God. You may feel you have done something so bad, Christ will never take you back, but if you made a decision to follow Him, you cannot be separated from His love, and it is that love that can help you find your way back to Him.

Nor any other created thing - There is nothing in this world that hasn’t been created, either by the omniscient God, or by the beings He created.

Will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus - It is important to note, this love of God is only found in Christ Jesus. It is not found in Allah, Buddha, Krishna, or any of the many other beliefs and ideologies that populate our world like a patchwork quilt. Only Jesus, because He and the Father are one (John 10:30). Jesus is the One who binds us to the Father and we know this through the Holy Spirit.

Thank you so much for coming along on this journey through Romans 8. I hope you have enjoyed it and learned as much as I have.

We are working our way through Romans chapter 8. I know I have taken a long time to get through this passage, but it has been worth the plodding pace. There is so much in this chapter to chew on, so like our friend the cow, we will continue to ruminate on this a few verses at a time until we are done.

Today’s verse is one that has been included in what I like to call the predestination/freewill debate. I am no theologian, but I am a believer in a powerful and mysterious God, who can be beyond my human comprehension. In fact, I prefer it that way. He is beyond our complete comprehension and understanding. He gives us enough information to know His unchanging character, His complete and boundless love, His merciful forgiveness, and His long suffering patience. I do not need to know every single thing about Him, or completely understand his ways.

“8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord.
9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways
And My thoughts than your thoughts.”

— Isaiah 55:8-9 (NASB 1995)

I have always believed that the most important aspect of the Scriptures are the Gospels of Jesus Christ. The Old Testament is pointing forward to the necessity of a Savior, and the New Testament is the fulfillment of the prophecies and the subsequent start of the church. I most definitely agree that all of Scripture is the inspired Word of God and all of it is important and we can learn from it, thus the reason I am spending so much time on these different passages, even the pieces that may not be easily explainable.

“29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; ”

— Romans 8:29 (NASB 1995)

Let’s dive in to this verse phrase by phrase.

For those whom He foreknew…

It is no stretch of the imagination to understand that God is all knowing. We could read all the books in the world and still not have a fraction of the knowledge He has. That doesn’t mean He just knows everything about the universe and how it all stays in place and was put together, but he knows you and I.

I have been doing a personal study on Psalm 139, a passage I have long loved. I shared some thoughts on the first three verses on a Faith Inspiration post recently. (Click on the link to go directly to that post.) From that psalm we learn how much God knows us, and it isn’t just current knowledge, it is from the foundation of the world. To say “those whom He foreknew” makes perfect sense. He knew each and everyone of us from the beginning of time.

He also predestined…

This is where, for some people, things get sticky. There are basically two theological points of view that underly the predestination/freewill debate: Calvinism and Arminianism. I am choosing to not go into details on those two points of view. A good comparison of Biblical texts that are controversial between the two can be seen here. You can also look up each and see what their basic points are if you are not familiar with them.

However, let me make clear, God is the one who gives us knowledge and understanding. It is important to search things out ourselves and ask for God’s wisdom and direction when looking at different passages. I think things are pretty clear when it comes to sin, Christ’s role in atoning for our sin, and our need to believe in the work of Christ on the cross and His resurrection to have eternal life. Also, if a person leans one way or the other, does not mean they are not saved.

Remember, God is God. He is almighty. He is beyond our finite minds to understand. There is most certainly a way for Him to predestine something, and also give us freewill to choose. The key is to not get hung up on it.

…to become conformed to the image of His son…

I think the important point here is what follows the word predestined. What did God predestine us to do? To become conformed to the image of His son. Isn’t this what God wants for everyone? He wants all of us to accept His son as our savior, and be conformed to His likeness. He wants all of us to look like Jesus. Christ left us the Holy Spirit to make this possible.

You might be thinking, there is no way I can be perfect, but God knows that. The fact that we are still in our flesh means we will continue to struggle until the day He takes us home, but we do have the power and strength through Him to become more and more like Jesus.

…so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren…

Jesus is not only our savior, but our brother. We become His brothers and sisters when we believe in Him and call God our Father. When Christ died for us and rose again He became the firstborn among all of us who believe, meaning we will all, like Him have eternal life and rise from the dead by the power and might of the Father above. Indeed, there will be many brothers and sisters because of our belief in the finished work of Christ, not what we believe about predestination or freewill.

Next month we will look into verse 30 and learn more about the process God uses to draw us to Himself, make us His own even though we are sinners and bring us to future glory.

I hope you will join me then.

Mulling It Over: Romans 8:37-39 - Conquerors because We are Convinced

Mulling it Over - Romans 8:29