Mulling it Over - Romans 8:30

Last month we looked at Romans 8:29, and had a short discussion on the theological points of predestination and free will. We also looked at what followed this idea of predestination, that we are being conformed to the image of Christ.

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Today we are going to look at verse 30. Once again, we are proceeding slowly, so that we might truly understand and let the Spirit drive home the truths revealed in these Scriptures.

“30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.”

— Romans 8:30 (NASB 1995)

and these whom He predestined,

We discussed this in last month’s post. The end result is God is able to both predestine and give us a free will. We tend to limit God, because we think if it is beyond our understanding then it must not be the case. We need to recognize God’s wisdom is a mystery and is not always completely known to us.

“6 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away;
7 but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;
8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;”

— I Corinthians 2:6-8 (NASB 1995)

For instance, a 7 day, literal creation has stumped many a Christian over the decades. This is not a problem for me. As my husband always says, “Seven days? What took Him so long?” Ha, ha. Unfortunately, rather than taking God at His word, and according to His word, man has come up with alternative theories to better coincide with the evolutionary theory touted by Darwin. The Day Age Theory, and The Gap Theory are two of the most popular.

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I just wanted to reiterate, we are the Creation, not the Creator, and we are limited in our understanding of the many layers of God. With that said, lets move on.

He also called;

This idea of calling has also had its day on the debate floor. Questions that have been around for years include: Is everyone called? Is calling just for special people at certain times? Is calling only for people going into full time Christian service, like a missionary or a pastor, etc?

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I see calling as a general term, much like predestination. We are all predestined, meaning God wants all of us to become His children by belief in Christ. In the same way we are all called. The difference lay in the fact that we must respond to His calling. We must choose to believe. Of course that presupposes you believe in free will. :)

“God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord..”

— I Corinthians 1:9 (NASB 1995)

Let me reiterate, I am not a theologian. I had three years of Bible school, but that doesn’t mean I have exhaustively studied every topic. However, I do believe God gives us His wisdom, understanding and knowledge as we delve into His deeper layers through His Holy Spirit. That being said, if you ever think I am in error in the ideas I bring to you, I welcome your thoughts.

and these whom He called, He also justified;

The word justify is defined in several ways: to judge, regard or treat as worthy of salvation; to prove or show to be just, right, or reasonable. Justification is the process by which Christ takes on our sin through His death on the cross enabling us to be worthy of God’s calling. In essence Christ’s blood covered us so that we might be made right before God.

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“24 being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;”

— Romans 3:24 (NASB 1995)

…and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

The predestination, calling and justification all lead to the perfect end result, our glorification. The older I get, the more I look forward to this glorification process. At 60 I am experiencing all the things that age brings with it. I have become acquainted with chronic illness, my hair is thinning, my joints ache, and my brain is almost always in the phase of post menopausal fog.

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Jesus told us we would have trouble in this world.

“33 These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”

— John 16:33 (NASB 1995)

We don’t have to look very far to see trouble. The southeast part of the U.S. has see two large hurricanes in the last two weeks. Out west there continue to be wildfires consuming thousands of acres of trees. We are entering in to flu and Corona season, in addition to that allergens are ever present and driving many of our sinus cavities wonky. We have political and societal unrest in the United States and there is still a war going on in Ukraine and the Middle East.

Jesus told us we would have trouble, but He didn’t want us to stay in that mindset. He told us He would give us peace, and He has overcome the world.

This mentality of looking towards glory is not a bad thing. Yes, we still need to be present. We need to live our lives as the brightest lights of Christ that we can be so others might come to know Him. How much easier it is to do this when we know that we are called, justified and one day will be glorified.

Just like the Morning Glory flower we need to turn our faces towards the light of God and His truth and open ourselves up completely to what He is trying to do in our lives. Only in doing that will we become the beautiful reflection of Him that we are meant to be.

Mulling It Over - Romans 8:18-25 - Part 2: The Groaning and the Hope

It has been months since I did a Mulling it Over post on this Faith page. When last we came together here, I was studying the 8th chapter of Romans. We learned from the very first verse that in Christ Jesus we are not condemned. He came, not to condemn, but to save that which was lost. We were lost in our sin, but when we gave our hearts to Him we became something different.

We learned that the law of the Old Testament was weak and only a shadow of what God truly wanted. Because of this weakness, God sent His only Son, Jesus, to do what the Law could not. Having just celebrated another Easter reminds us of the wonderful, awful, necessity for this sacrifice of Christ’s own body on the the cross. The perfect lamb of God opened the gateway to the throne room of His Father.

Now, as we live on this earth, entombed in our flesh, we struggle day after day to walk in the spirit, not the flesh, but it is only by setting our minds on the Spirit, and feeding the Spirit that we are able to put aside that flesh and regularly abide in Christ. We are not under obligation to the flesh, and if we have that same Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead we can put to death the deeds of the flesh.

When we put our faith in Christ we have been adopted as the sons and daughters of God. This gives us the right to cry out to God and call Him, Abba! Father! This sonship enables us to be heirs to the Kingdom of God and all the rights and privileges therein. (To see all the previous posts click on the links: Romans 8:1-2, Romans 8:3-4, Romans 8:5-8, Romans 8:9-11, Romans 8:12-13, Romans 8:14-17, Romans 8:18-25 - Part 1 )

Today we are looking back at a few things we already covered in Part 1, but with this chunk there is a lot to cover, so we are going to look at it in pieces, rather than phrase by phrase.

“18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.
19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.
20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope
21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.
24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees?
25 But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.”

— Quote Source

I would like to look at these verses as a comparison of place, not only physical locale, but spiritual position.

Physical:

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When sin came into our world with the first choice of disobedience, corruption came with it. Life which was meant to be eternal, gradually shortened. Living things grew old. Not only that, but disease began to ravage humanity and all other created things. Plants contracted blights, animals became infested with parasites, and humans knew pain in both childbirth and aging.

Spiritual:

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Sin distanced us from the Creator. Not only were we driven from the Garden, but we lost the personal relationship with our God. We became the naughty sheep that needed to be tended across the wilderness, and God our keeper. He created boundaries with the Law, a shadow of that which He originally intended, but a necessity to tie a Holy, Pure God, to a stiff necked and sinful people.

When we compare these two areas we can divide the above verses into a compare and contrast of sorts.

Physical/Suffering - Spiritual/Glory -

• Anxious longing (vs. 19) - Glory revealed (vs. 18)

• Waiting (vs. 19 & 23 & 25) - Sons of God revealed (vs. 19)

• Subjected to futility (vs. 20) - Creation set free (vs. 21)

• Not self-determined (vs. 20) - Children of God set free and glorified (vs. 21)

• Enslaved to corruption (vs. 21) - Adoption as sons (& daughters) (vs. 23

• Groaning (vs. 22 & 23) - Redemption of our bodies (vs. 23)

• Pain in childbirth (vs. 22) - Fulfillment of hope (vs. 24 & 25)

• First fruits of the Spirit (vs. 23)

• Persevering (vs. 25)

This entire section of Romans 8 is about what is and what will be. What is plays out in this physical realm, and includes suffering. We suffer all throughout life on this fallen planet. Some suffer far more than others, but we all suffer. For the Christ follower this doesn’t just include the same trials and struggles as others, but has the added component of a waiting and longing for what will be: our life in glory with our Lord.

Paul includes the suffering of creation, which I find interesting, but it makes sense. God’s plan was for a beautiful place full of life and energy. It was a place of freedom. Man lived in concert with his Creator and his creation. The world, and all that was in it was for man’s pleasure and care.

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Creation groans and longs for its former glory. Storms, hurricanes, typhoons, earthquakes, forest fires; these are all signs of a creation yearning to be what it was originally intended to be. It wasn’t given the choice of suffering, as the Creator subjected it to futility, so that we would have hope.

Let’s just pause there a minute. God allowed this amazing thing He had created to become less than so that you and I would have hope. I don’t know about you, but being able to go outside, touch a fuzzy kitten, see the trees changing in the fall, hear the ocean waves crashing, or a stream gurgling, and smelling the seasons as they change always gives me hope and reminds me that my God is near even when the world is in chaos.

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Not only does Creation feel this yearning and goes through the pains of childbirth, waiting for its return to glory, we do too. I know as I age I identify more closely with this groaning and suffering. I know that one day I will be in a glorified body with nor more coughing, sinus issues, achy knees and wrists, and no more desire for things that are not good for me. I will know fully, just as I am fully known! (I Corinthians 13:12) Our hope will be full, and we will stand before our Abba, Father. What glory that will be.

Finally, the last verse in this section is pertinent to where we are right now. We must wait for hope to be fulfilled, and wait for it eagerly with perseverance. Remember, my word for the year is Wait? God in His rich and lavish love is reminding us that we are in a waiting time, but glory is coming. Creation knows this to be true, and we can do.

Dear friends, with perseverance wait eagerly for hope.

Called and Glorified

I want to continue looking at our two verses from two weeks ago, Romans 8:29-30. We have been slowly moving through this chapter, mulling over each verse or a few verses at a time. Often when I am writing a post, I think to myself that I can get through a set number of verses, but then when I actually get to typing, I realize there is just too much, and I must cut back. As we saw two weeks ago, verse 29 is packed full of information including words that we don’t often use in our vocabularies. When is the last time you used a sentence with the words predestined or foreknew? I bet it wasn’t just yesterday. I hope that the definitions I gave you in the last post were helpful as we moved through the study.

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Today we are going to focus on verse 30. Let’s take another look at both verses.

“29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;
30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.”

— Romans 8:29-30 (NASB)

Without further ado, let’s jump in to our verse.

…and these whom He predestined…

Two weeks ago we learned that the word predestined means to “decree, determine, appoint or settle beforehand” (Webster’s Online Dictionary). The word these is referring to the people talked about in verse 29. Last week we came to understand that these are the followers of Christ. These are the ones that God drew to Himself and conformed to the image of His Son, Jesus. We also discussed that His knowledge of our choice to accept Him as our Lord, doesn’t not delete our free will. Foreknowledge, predestination and free will work together in a way that our limited minds cannot understand.

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…He also called…

If you recall, the definition of the word called included words like summon, invite, and rouse. I like that idea of “to rouse from sleep,” (Webster’s Online Dictionary). When God calls He is trying to wake us up. He is trying to rouse us from the sleep of darkness. Much like that very curse that Maleficent cast on beautiful Aurora, we were unaware of our need for a Savior until God began to beckon and call, bidding us to rise from our slumber. Just like the young princess, we had to be rescued by a great warrior, one who was willing to sacrifice His life for our well being. It was the prince’s kiss that woke the princess and so too, our Lord’s Holy life touches our hearts with a gentleness and love, to which no other love can compare.

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…and these whom He called…

The ones who are called are those that have risen out of the dark sleep. Many are roused from their slumber, but not all actually get up and get out of bed. During this pandemic, I have found it very hard to get out of bed in the morning. I don’t want to get up and face the world that we are currently living in. If I chose to stay in bed, I would waste away, no longer wanting to eat, or drink or be a part of humanity. The same is true when we are called by the God of the universe. If we do not wake, we will never know the depth of the beauty of the world around us and of a relationship with Him. Perhaps you are wondering, why bother getting up.

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…He also justified…

We get up because He justified us. Jesus, whose mercy is new every morning, was Himself, the surety for our salvation. It is because He justified us that we are able to have a relationship with this all powerful, magnificent being. Christ and His blood make us holy and because of that we are able to approach the throne of grace without trepidation.

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“Therefore let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”

— Hebrews 4:6 (NASB)

This verse tells us we can draw near to the throne with confidence. We can do that because of what Christ did on the cross. Jesus made us righteous. He made us worthy of salvation.

…and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

What does it mean for us to be glorified? The verse says that “these”, meaning us, as we are the ones He called and justified, He is going to glorify. Let’s go back to the definition of glorified: to make glorious by bestowing honor, praise, or admiration: to cause to be or seem to be better than the actual condition. I want to look at this definition in two ways as both are applicable to the fact that He glorifies us.

The first half of the definition is talking about honoring someone. We do honor people in many ways, but how does God honor us? We know that honor, and praise are words applied to Jesus and His Father. In fact, Jesus’ desire when He walked this earth was to honor and glorify His Father.

“Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came out of heaven: “I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.”

— John 12:28 (NASB)

“Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You,”

— John 17:1 (NASB)

“Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

— John 17:5 (NASB)

In a similar way a child might desire to honor their parent on Mother’s Day or Father’s Day, or a soldier might honor his commander and his country by living by a code of conduct becoming a soldier, and by being willing to give his life. We also honor those who have gone before us by putting up memorials and by setting aside days, like Memorial Day to remember the sacrifices that were made for our freedom.

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The Bible also says that God will honor us. What exactly does that look like? Let’s look at a few verses

“If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also; if anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him.”

— John 12:26 (NASB)

“He will call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will rescue him and honor him.”

— Psalm 91:15 (NASB)

God can honor whom He choses to honor and part of that may have something to do with our standing in Christ.

The second part of the definition refers to the idea that to glorify someone causes them to be, or seem to be better than their actual condition. Isn’t this true of us? The reality is, Christ has caused us to be better than our actual condition. What was our condition? We were sinners, sleeping in the darkness. There is nothing about our condition that gives us the ability to be holy and pure as God is holy and pure. However, when we become Christ followers, our situation changes. His blood makes us holy. He has glorified us, making us capable of being called the children of God. One day we will be glorified with new bodies and we will walk in the presence of the Holy God. That will certainly be an honor for us.

I hope these verses have once again encouraged you in your relationship with Christ. He loves you and wants to make Himself known to you.

Until next time, keep laughing and keep looking up!