Mulling it Over - Romans 8:12-13

This week’s Mulling it Over passage is going to continue to look at Romans chapter 8. The book of Romans is full of doctrine that relates specifically to our standing before God without Christ and with Christ. It deals, in detail, with the flesh versus the Spirit and how that plays out in our lives culminating either in the devastation and destruction of the one (flesh), or the fullness and life of the other (Spirit).

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Today I am only going to look at two verses.

“12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh—
13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. ”

— Romans 8:12-13 (NASB 1995)

Verse 12 tells us, “…we are under obligation…” What does it mean to be under obligation? Being obligated means I have a duty or responsibility to someone or something. In this case Paul is telling us we have a responsibility “…not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh.” We are duty bound to not be living according to the flesh. That sounds pretty serious, doesn’t it? The next verse tells us why.

Verse 13 begins with a devastating statement. “For if you are living according to the flesh, you must die…” Whoa! Now wait a minute. How can we not be living according to the flesh? We are, after all, walking in our skin, or flesh. In a manner of speaking we are always living in the flesh.

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The idea of “living according to the flesh” isn’t speaking just of the physical, fleshly body we are stuck in while on this earth. Living according to the flesh, means that we are letting our flesh rule our lives. We are living for our desires, our passions, our lusts and our self. We want what we want, when we want it. If you are a Christ follower and think you no longer live according to the flesh, don’t fool yourself. We are in a constant state of dying at all times. Look at the rest of verse 13.

“…But if, by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the the body, you will live.” The tense of the word “putting” means we are doing it on a regular basis. If it had been in the past, it would have said, “…if, by the Spirit you put to death…” This would have changed the meaning making it that we only had to put our flesh to death once.

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Before you get discouraged let’s remember what Christ did on the cross. Verse 3 of Roman’s 8 reminds us that God sent his own Son to condemn sin in the flesh. Jesus was made flesh for us and then put to death for us. The moment we align ourselves with Christ we have His blood covering us and giving us the ability to die to sin, and flesh. We are dead, because of what sin has done, but alive because of what Christ has done.

How do we put this flesh to death on a regular basis? If you are like me, you might find yourself easily sliding into old habits like feeling sorry for yourself, thinking you are not enough, turning to food or purchasing items to make you feel better. These are all “fleshly” rather than “Spiritual” forms of coping. I am learning, to battle and put to death the flesh there are several things I need to do.

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1 - Keep short accounts. Checking in with God regularly helps me to keep my mind and heart where it needs to be and keeps me from focusing on the flesh.

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2 - Find some accountability. I have a good friend that I know I can text any time and she will pray for and with me. I also have a group of women I meet with virtually once a week for a Bible study, that I know I could check in with any one of them if I am struggling with my flesh.

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3 - Memorize God’s word. This is one I don’t do nearly enough, in fact hardly at all, and of that I am ashamed. God’s word is our sword, and if you want a quick way to put your flesh to death, the sword of the Spirit is it.

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4 - Pray without ceasing. You all know this from 1 Thessalonians 5:17, but we need to make it a reality in our lives. Praying doesn’t have to be an on your knees posture. It isn’t about physical posture, but heart posture, although, getting on my knees or even flat on my face on the floor does wonders for my prayer life and for my dying to the flesh.

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5 - My sister-in-law gave me some great advice, which she had gotten from a book she was reading, take life 24 hours at a time. When you wake up in the morning, before you even get out of bed, dedicate the next 24 hour period to God, submitting to His divine appointments. Sometimes, life just doesn’t go as planned, but when we begin to see that each 24 hour day is a gift from Him, even the bad stuff can be used for our growth and His glory. This is Spirit living, not flesh living.

Believe me ladies when I say, I am struggling right now to live in the Spirit rather than the flesh, but even taking the time to mull over these two verses has brought me back to His center, and that is the only way we can really live.

Next month we will delve deeper into Romans 8.

Mulling It Over - Romans 8:5-8

I wanted to get back to our Romans 8 passage that I started in my Mulling It Over series. Due to a busy week last week, I did not get to this post, so I am going to forego the Faith Inspiration post for this month, so we can get back to the Scriptures. There is so much in this passage, that it is like going to a buffet and being overwhelmed by all the choices. The best way to approach it is a bite at a time. Today we are going to look at verses 5 through 8.

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The first two sections we covered reminded us of our position in Christ Jesus and showed us, in Him, we are no longer condemned. Paul reiterates the weakness of the law and flesh, and the need for Jesus’ perfect sacrifice, which brought about a new covenant. Today’s verses go deeper.

“5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,
7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”

— Romans 8:5-8 (NASB 1995)

Let’s do a compare and contrast chart:

Flesh

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• Death

• Hostile towards God

• Not willing to subject itself to the law of God

• Not able to subject itself to the law of God

• Cannot please God

Spirit

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• Life

• Peace

• Not hostile towards God

• Willing AND able to subject itself to the law of God

• Can please God

Besides the obvious differences between the Flesh and the Spirit, there is an underlying current; the current of the will. The one who is living according to the flesh sets his/her mind on the things of the flesh. The one who is living according to the Spirit sets his/her mind on the things of the Spirit. What does this mean? How do we know what things are of the flesh and what things are of the Spirit? Let’s start by looking at simple definitions.

Flesh - the physical nature of human beings; human nature (other definitions include the soft parts of the body, the skin, the edible parts of an animal.)

Spirit - an animating or vital principle held to give life to physical organisms; a supernatural being - as in Holy Spirit; the activating or essential principle influencing a person; a person having a character or disposition of a specified nature.

For the purpose of this post the flesh represents anything having to do with living in this physical world: feelings, desires, needs, and the skin we are in. The spirit, on the other hand represents anything in a spiritual realm or in correlation to knowing and living for God.

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What, then, does it mean to live according to the flesh by setting our minds on the flesh? Simply put, living according to the flesh is a living a life only for the fulfillment of the flesh. That doesn’t necessarily mean a hedonistic lifestyle of orgies and self gratification. Living for the fulfillment of the flesh can look as innocent as having that six figure salary so you can buy the big house, get the cool car in the color you want, or have the walk in closet of you dreams. Living for the flesh can be seeking greater worldly knowledge through higher education, not for the purpose of knowing things, but because knowing things makes us worthwhile. You see, living according to the flesh makes “ME” and what I want the highest priority.

We can be a born again believer and still be walking in the flesh. Remember it says, “…set their minds on…” What am I setting my mind on? How often do you wake up in the wee hours of the morning and start to worry and fret? How many times during the day do I find myself listening to secular music, or watching shows that might be somewhat questionable? How many pills, classes, diets, and advice columns do I regularly ingest just so I don’t have to feel pain, or sadness, or anxiety, or have to be reminded that I am not enough?

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On the other hand, living according to the spirit and having our minds set on the spirit is to seek the fulfillment of God’s desires. It is a striping away of the fleshly, worldly concerns so that they may be replaced with the knowledge and wisdom that comes from an Almighty and loving God. This does not mean that we don’t take care of ourselves or that we cannot enjoy so many wonderful things that life has to offer. In contrast it means that we carry those things loosely, and with gratitude, because we know they could be gone in a moment and from whom they come.

God’s Word is clear, if we set our minds on the flesh it will result in death and in outright or eventual hostility towards God. Can you hear Satan’s voice in your ear, just like it was in Eve’s ear, "Surely, you won’t die…I mean everyone dies, but why not enjoy life while you can, after all, you deserve it! You work hard. You try to be good, and you are redeemed right? You can’t do anything that God hasn’t already forgiven you for….” On, and on the manipulation goes.

God’s Word is also clear, if we set our minds on the Spirit it means life and peace. Isn’t that what we are all craving? A life of abundant peace? Sure it’s great to have things, and to experience life to the fullest, but within the gentle constraints of His Spirit. When we start pushing against those constraints to fulfill the desires of our flesh, and start regularly setting our minds on the flesh, our peace will disappear like the morning dew as the heat of day intensifies.

The desire of our hearts should be to please God. The best way to do that is to set our minds on the things of the Spirit.

Take the Steak

I am not a vegetarian. I do occasionally eat a meatless meal and I also occasionally cook without meat. I am definitely not a vegan. I really like my cheese, butter and eggs. I like chicken, beef and pork. I also like fish and wild game like venison and pheasant. I do not judge those who don’t eat meat as being less than me. I think it is honorable to choose a lifestyle that makes you feel healthier and gives your life purpose and fulfillment. What about our spiritual lives?

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“ For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant.”

— Hebrews 5:13 (NASB)

This statement in the book of Hebrews is pertinent to our study of Romans 8. As we progress through the chapter it becomes obvious that this is written to people who are followers of Christ in the true sense. It is Christ followers who are able to eat the meat of the word, and delve into the deeper layers of God. There are many people today, who call themselves Christians, but when asked what makes them a Christian the answers are often a complex web of political points of view on social justice and tolerance. A true Christian is one who follows Christ. What did Jesus say about himself?

““I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”

— John 14:6 (NASB)

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Jesus is the one who made this statement. Christians did not make this stuff up. Jesus said that He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. He didn’t say He was one of many ways to God. In fact, He goes on to say, “…no one comes to the Father but through Me.” That is pretty narrow minded thinking, isn’t it? Not really. The one saying it is God and He dictates what truth is. I want to get back to Romans 8, so I will not get into a philosophical talk on truth or the fact that God exists. The fact of the matter is, just like most things we cannot fully know and understand, it is an act of faith. It is to those who put their faith in Jesus Christ, that Romans 8 is written. Let’s look at the next few verses.

“12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh—
13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. ”

— Romans 8:12-13 (NASB)

I’d like to point out several points of truth.

1 - We are not under obligation to the flesh.

What exactly does that mean? It means that we don’t have to listen to our flesh. We have the capacity, because we are in the Spirit to actually say no to the pull of the flesh. Once again, let me clarify, we do have an obligation to our flesh, to take care of it. Good nutrition, exercise, sleep, healthy relationships, all help to nurture our flesh in the appropriate ways. However, we are not obligated to over eat, watch pornography, participate in self harm through things like cutting, alcohol or drugs, or live in a state of anxiety and fear, such that we are incapacitated.

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2 - We will die.

Verses 12 and 13 are pretty straight forward. We are not obligated to the flesh, to live according to it. In fact, if we are living according to the flesh, we must die. Let me head down the rabbit trail for just a minute. All of us will die. Thus far, there has been no discovered fountain of youth, Holy Grail (Indiana Jones) or cure for this end of life event called death. Death came into the world because of sin. Do I think man kind would have lived forever if there had been no sin? I don’t know the answer to that, but I believe God created Adam and Eve with the ability to procreate and to live an extremely long time. It was the choice to sin that brought the darkness of death into our world. This darkness will remain with us, until Christ comes to set up His kingdom.

As Christ followers we are not exempt from physical death. Unless, Christ comes before I die, I too will leave this physical body behind.

3 - We can live.

The last part of verse 13 says, “…but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.” This is talking about spiritual life, not physical life. Why is it important to be putting to death the deeds of the body? What does God’s word say?

“And it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’”

— Acts 2:21 (NASB)

Judging from this verse anyone who calls on Jesus name will be saved. They will have eternal life. Even though they die a physical death, their spirits will live on forever with Jesus. Why then, does verse 13 of Romans 8 say that putting to death the deeds of the body will give us life? I think it has to do with our true heart.

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There can be a lot of emotion involved in making a decision to turn one’s life over to Christ. Often the call comes at a time when things are not going well, and is made as an act of desperation. A person can make an emotional response, without fully realizing or making a true commitment of their heart. A person who has made a real response to Christ will realize that is only the beginning of a life long commitment to their Savior. Just as in a marriage, the commitment must be worked on and guarded, so too our commitment to Christ must be continually before us and we should be constantly putting to death the things in our flesh that come between us and Christ. This death of our flesh, will allow the life of Christ to manifest itself more abundantly in us and we will truly live.

Our Christian lives should be never be stagnant. We should be growing and learning and enjoying the deeper layers of God. These layers are where we really begin to eat the meat that He intended for us. It is not easy to grow to this point. I have been struggling for years to overcome and put to death my flesh, but I also realize, growth often happens in spurts, just like with our children and grandchildren. One minute they are tiny toddlers and the next minute they are ready to join the basketball team. God knows we can’t learn everything all at once, but if He is offering you a steak instead of a potato, take it and enjoy.

Next week we will rediscover an amazing truth about our relationship with God. Until then. Have a great week.

How Will You Answer These Questions?

These last several weeks, I have been looking at the 8th chapter of the book of Romans in the New Testament. The book of Romans was written by Paul the Apostle to the Christian believers in the church at Rome. The basic theme of this book is the gospel message, thus when we come to chapter 8 it makes sense that Paul would discuss the battle between the flesh and the Spirit. We cannot accept Christ as our Savior and then expect to go on living just as we were before we made that commitment. The Spirit of Christ in us changes us, if we let Him have His way with us.

Let’s take a look at the next portion of Romans 8:

“9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness.
11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.”

— Romans 8:9-11 (NIV)

I chose the New International Version of these verses because I like the picture it paints. There are three pictures I want to look at in the form of three questions.

1 - What realm are you in?

I like that the NIV uses the term realm. Since I am a fiction writer, specifically trying to focus on science fiction and fantasy, kings, kingdoms and realms are easy ideas for me to imagine. Paul says that we, if indeed, the Spirit of God lives in us, are not in the realm of the flesh, but in the realm of the Spirit. Why, then, do we spend so much time living, working, striving and worrying in the realm of the flesh?

We worry about money. We fuss over our homes, our clothes and our personal space. We worry about our families, our parents, our kids and our grandkids. We obsess over movies and books. We plan for vacations and save our pennies, just in case the economy crashes. We search for the perfect home, car, job and partner. We do all this, pulling ourselves along by our own bootstraps, willing ourselves to fight, to claw, to overcome and to win. All for what? In the end our flesh decays, just like all the stuff and we all end up in the land fill.

That is the realm of the flesh. This realm is built on a garbage heap of lies, circulated by an enemy unseen, who comes unbidden, crouching outside the door of the home we think is so secure, waiting for the opportunity to pounce and devour. Yet, because we live in the flesh, we do not see him. We do not realize the effect he has had on our lives. We do not even care, because out of sight is out of mind.

But, we are not in the realm of the flesh. We are in the realm of the Spirit. This realm is the realm of light. It is light that only those who know the Son can see, if they are brave enough to look. Often, as we walk in the flesh, in this world, we forget that there is a real spiritual world moving and operating behind the scenes. This is the world, that we, who walk in the Spirit, have access to. It is in this realm that things can be changed: hearts moved to Christ, battles won against the enemy, prayers answered, miracles performed.

There is no doubt, we need to take care of ourselves, our families and our affairs, but when we allow this world and things put out there by the enemy to consume us, then we are living, not in the realm of the Spirit and light, but in the realm of the flesh and darkness

2 - Sin or righteousness?

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We are faced with a choice as we walk through life. Am I going to choose to sin or choose to be righteous? What is sin exactly? Sin is anything that separates us from God. Things like hate, envy, lust, murder, adultery, lying, eating too much, spending outside our means, stealing, cheating, gossiping, etc. are all things that bring darkness into our lives. The Bible says God is light.

“This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.”

— I John 1:5 (NASB)

Living in the Spirit means we are fellowshipping with the light of Christ. Our desire should be to be like Him. He was the perfect man.

“You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.”

— I John 3:5 (NASB)

We should strive to be perfect as well. You might say that is not possible. It isn’t possible if we are living in the realm of the flesh and choosing to sin.

“By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.”

— I John 4:17 (NASB)

This verse says that as He is, so also are we in this world. He was perfect and by His Spirit, we are able to be perfect as well. Don’t misunderstand, as Paul said,

“Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus.”

— Philippians 3:12

Our complete perfection will not happen until we are with Christ, but day by day, as we make the choice for righteousness, we sin less and less.

3 - Living or dead?

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If Christ is in us and we are walking in the Spirit, rather than the flesh, we will have life. This doesn’t just apply to the afterlife. Many Christians sit around, mistakenly thinking that life only happens after we are dead. While that is true and we who are in Christ will live for eternity with Him, look at what Jesus said in the gospel of John.

“9 I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.”

— John 10:9-10 (NASB)

The life that He gave to us, starts the moment we enter through the door of belief in His sacrifice and resurrection from the dead. We don’t have to wait until we get to heaven to have the abundant life.

Does that mean we will never struggle again? Does that mean we will float along with no more storms or difficulties? No way. What we will have is a life that is full of joy amidst sorrow, healing amidst pain and peace amidst chaos. I know, I am living it.

What it really comes down to is one word…Him, Jesus, Lord, Savior, Lover, Friend, Defender….okay, so that is more than one word, but I know, many of you who follow my faith posts, know exactly what I am talking about. You have experienced His peace, love, forgiveness and joy even when your world is rocking like an earthquake of epic proportions.

I leave you with those three questions, based on three little verses in Romans. How are you going to answer them?

Until next time, keep fighting the fight.

Hostile

The word hostile as described by the Webster’s online dictionary means:

of or relating to an enemy,

marked by malevolence: having or showing unfriendly feelings

openly opposed or resisting,

not hospitable; having an intimidating, antagonistic or offensive nature

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“7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”

— Romans 8:7-8 (NASB)

Try reading through verse 7 above, but using one of the meanings for the word hostile:

“…the mind set on the flesh is an enemy of God…”

“…the mind set on the flesh is openly opposed to God…”

“…the mind set on the flesh is inhospitable, intimidating, antagonistic or offensive towards God…”

Obviously, God can not be intimidated, but the idea is, a mind set on the flesh is not interested in what God is interested in. If we take a quick look at the world around us, we will see a lot of opposition and antagonism towards God. Let’s look at a few other verses where the word hostile is used.

“21 And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds,
22 yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach”

— Colossians 1:21-22 (NASB)

The above two verses follow immediately after the passage discusses our reconciliation through Christ Jesus. Verse 21 says we were “formerly alienated and hostile in mind”. Who were we hostile towards? Towards God. There would be no need for Christ to reconcile us to the Father, if we were not alienated and hostile towards Him. The verse continues saying we were “engaged in evil deeds.” Hostility and evil go hand in hand.

Note, the hostility is connected to the mind. The mind set on the flesh is hostile towards God. The mind set on the flesh is evil. Wow! There is a definitely a correlation between what goes into our mind and how we behave and think. Our minds are a battle ground between what is true and right and what is evil and a lie. Joyce Meyer devoted a whole book to this theme. Here are a few quotes:

“When a person is going through a hard time, his mind wants to give up. Satan knows that if he can defeat us in our mind, he can defeat us in our experience. That’s why it is so important that we not lose heart, grow weary and faint.”

— Joyce Meyer - Battlefield of the Mind: Winning the Battle in Your Mind

“We are not walking in the Word if our thoughts are opposite of what it says. We are not walking in the Word if we are not thinking in the Word.””

— Joyce Meyer - Battlefield of the Mind: Winning the Battle in Your Mind

“If our thoughts are going to affect what we become, then it should certainly be a priority that we think right thoughts.”

— Joyce Meyer - Battlefield of the Mind: Winning the Battle in Your Mind

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Our verses in Romans say that if we are hostile towards God, with our mind set on the flesh we will not subject ourselves to Him and are, in fact, unable to do so. The final outcome is that we cannot please God.

We are definitely in a battle and the battle is for our minds and our hearts. If we set our minds on the flesh; what we can get, feel, see, experience, we will not please God. In fact, we will probably be so absorbed in pleasing ourselves that we will turn away from what is right and true.

“DON’T GIVE UP! When the battle seems endless and you think you’ll never make it, remember that you are reprogramming a very carnal, fleshly, worldly mind to think as God thinks. Impossible? No! Difficult? Yes! But, just think, you have God on your team. I believe He is the best “computer programmer” around. (Your mind is like a computer that has had a lifetime of garbage programmed into it.) God is working on you; at least, He is if you have invited Him to have control of your thoughts. He is reprogramming your mind. Just keep cooperating with Him—and don’t give up!”

— Joyce Meyer - Battlefield of the Mind: Winning the Battle in Your Mind

Next week we will look at the hope we have because we are in Christ Jesus. Until then, keep setting your mind on Him.